If youre thinking from the title these are no good and the form and function is different? They' re not. They just fit differently than my camo pairs. Almost like the pockets are in different spots on my leg and there is more material in the booty area and mind you, these are the same size as the camo joints. It's not a deal breaker but I'll be honest, I prefer the way the camo ones fit better. With that being said I would hate to tell you to size down and that cause you a problem as well. It's just a different fit, kinda like shoes with different tech in them, they are going to provide a different ride. That doesn't mean that that's bad, its just, "what are you willing to live with"? . Sorry I've written a novel with no sound advice. I only have my opinion which is the better fit. Side note: I'm still rockin'em because they're Jordan Craig and they're fly.